October Bidding Help








PBS Crew Room Bid Assistance:


DTW: September 11-14 0800-1700

MSP: September 11-14 0800-1700

JFK: September 11-14 0800-1700 local time

LGA: September 11-12 0700-1500  and

LGA:  September 10-14 Email questions to scheduling@edvafa.org

ATL: September 11 1200-2000 and 12-14 0800-1700



Please utilize the PBS bidding experts in base this month.

MSP – David & Maureen, ATL- Jaki, JFK – Sandra, LGA – Eve, DTW – Natalie, Jean, & Anita

The bid month will be OCTOBER 01-31

There will be a slight decrease in flying towards the end of OCTOBER because of Halloween.


MSP flying:  a spike in 1 day trips up to around 40-50.


ATL flying characteristics:

    • The CR900 is now part of the ATL bid packet!!
    • 200-  There is so much flying out of ATL that other bases will have to help with half of the 5000 hours this month. Other bases will filter through.
    • 900-  1800 hours of flying but only enough staff to accommodate 1100 hours…700 hours will be assigned to FAs schedules from other bases.  Most duty periods are 3 legs.  The flying appears to have higher quality trips and credit. These trips will fly through all bases.

AFA SPECIAL REQUESTS –  We asked Crew Planning to build 5 legs maximum per day

  •     Crew Planning’s results:
    •  Programming 200 trips with 5 legs per duty period decreased block per duty and days off, increased company costs, and lost almost 20 CDOs.  95% of the 3200 duty periods have 5 or less legs. Because of this we decided to keep the 200 at 6 legs maximum and compromise with 5 legs per duty maximum on the 900.
      • Planning is steadily increasing planned aircraft changes to allow for more break time which will help with breaks during a 6 leg duty period.




  • The 30 hour vacations will be in YOW, again.
  • 5 days trips – will adjust programming to 1100 start time /1800 end time to boost commutability.
  • Over 24 Hour Layovers :
    • 200- HPN, GNV
    •  900- IND, RSW, DFW, RDU, MEM, XNA
    •  YOW out of LGA every Fri night with 30 hours (idle day)


  • Only 20 of the 30 FA’s positions were filled for the ATL base. No plans to displace but to hire within the ATL market.  Are you thinking about transferring there?
  • Good Ratio of 3 to 4 day trips again this month
  • Planning was able to build CDOs on the 900 in ATL for October
  • Endeavor is trying out a new programming system, along with the Ad0pt system to build our trips. So far their results are beneficial to crew and the company.  It will be able to program for more specific requests much more quickly allowing for more adjustments before final schedules are due. Planning has been advising them of what we think your preferences are. PLEASE FILL OUT THE SURVEY TODAY!!
  •  The Annual Vacation Bid will open early October – Crew Planning will send out memos, crewtrac messages and reminders.

FLICA Follow Up for May Trades


Early this week AFA received many complaints regarding FILCA trades for May flying.  AFA has administrative view access to the system, and we have been reviewing what occurred on April 17.  In summary, we did not see any clear violation of LOA 6.  But, we did see some areas of concern, which we will address with Crew Scheduling.

Please continue to read for details on how our trades work and details on what happened with May trades.

Automated and Manual Trades

A brief primer on our trading system under LOA 6 is key to understanding how trades work and whether the system is working properly.  We agreed to an automated trade system to improve transparency, speed, and trade options for Flight Attendants.  FLICA has been a huge success for our work group.  We can now drop well below 50 hours, and the flexibility and speed of trades has really improved our quality of life.

However, there were limitations to FLICA.  Our Contract required partial trip trades and reserve trades, but FLICA could not handle those trades.  The solution was to make partials and reserves “manual” trades – they would be submitted in FLICA, but an actual person would have to approve/deny the trades.  Because these manual trades would be processed separately from the automated trades, we understood that it was not possible for all trades to be processed in true time-stamp order.  Our LOA 6 specifically states this fact.  Trades only need to be processed in order in their respective category.  No group of trades has priority over the other.

In addition, FLICA’s “real-time” automated system is not the same as instantaneous trades.  Each automated trade takes an average of 20 seconds to process, and each trade must be processed in order.  When May trading opened there were 149 automatic  trip trades submitted in just the first 60 seconds.  At 20 seconds for each trade in four separate bases it would take FLICA 20-25 minutes to process the first 60 seconds of trades in each base. Meanwhile, THOUSANDS of trades continued to be submitted.  In the first 15 minutes alone there were 2,225 trade requests!

Another limitation of FLICA is that sometimes it is stopped because Flight Attendants submit illegal trades or place trades in the wrong folders.  The system cannot process these trades. This blocks all trades behind it and requires the intervention of a crew scheduler to review and clear the incorrect trade.  When this happens the system is not “down,” it is just stopped.

The takeway is that just because it takes many minutes or hours for automated trades to be processed does not mean FLICA is down or that reserve drops or partials are being processed ahead of automated trades.  A Flight Attendant who put in the 149th trade in the opening minute of trading could have assumed FLICA was not working for 25 minutes and that reserve drops were being approved because the reserve grid kept changing.  Instead, the system was doing its work.  It’s not surprising that that reserve grid would change after 148 automated trades.

What Happened on April 17

In reviewing the FLICA data for the first hours of April 17 trading it does not appear there was any systemic error.  There were times when FLICA was stopped because of illegal and incorrect trades.  This is normal.  The system was not down.  In the first hour of trading alone 2,783 trades were submitted.

Also, Some things for May that we need to be aware of:

  • For the month of May we picked up a significant amount of hours and have less staffing and less reserves in each base.  Lower than we have seen for the past 6 months.
  • We also have increased ATL flying out of our current bases.

This means that for May we ended up with some of the tightest numbers we have had since October.  Fewer Flight Attendants are able to drop trips.  The supply of dropping days was much less than the demand.

While we did not find any violation of LOA 6, we did see two areas of concern.  The first is that the automated trades appeared to be stopped in JFK for a longer period of time than we consider normal or acceptable.  By itself this is not a violation of LOA 6.  But it is a concern we are raising with Crew Scheduling.

The second, and bigger, concern is to what extent manual trades (partials and reserves) were being processed while automated trades were stopped.  We know that manual trades at DTW and MSP were not processed during the automatic trade stoppages.  However, minimal trades in JFK and LGA were processed during the stoppage – whether these were partials or reserves we are investigating.   This would not necessarily be a violation of LOA 6.  However, when we have automated trades blocked for a significant period of time while a large volume of manual trades are worked it begins to undercut the purpose of automated trades.
While our current trading is imperfect, trades are far improved from the old manual process.  Flight Attendants will remember waiting up to 48 hours (and sometimes longer) to get a trade approved or denied.  But, there is always room for improvement, and we will continue to raise the above issues with the Company.

CrewTrac Upgrade and More

  • CrewTrac Upgrade
  • Onboard Sexual Assault Survey
  • Please Your Support for Mesa Flight Attendants

CrewTrac Upgrade

Last week, Crew Scheduling informed us that last weekend an upgrade was implemented with CrewTrac which would allow for better stability in the system. You will notice that if you have a smart phone, tablet, etc, you will be able to view your schedule using many different browsers including Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc. This will allow you to check – in, view schedule and inquire on pairings etc. This will be a welcome relief to Flight Attendants that use Apple products as they are now fully compatible.

Onboard Sexual Assault Survey

Congressional offices and victim rights advocates have reached out to AFA about the incidents of onboard sexual assault that has been reported by several media sources. As the expert voice in the cabin, AFA can make a difference for Flight Attendants and the passengers in our care.

This is a 1 minute anonymous survey, distributed by the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO. The survey will help AFA gather information about Flight Attendants’ experiences with passenger on passenger onboard sexual assaults.

Your answers will help AFA better understand the extent and nature of this issue. The survey will be open through Sunday, April 2, 2017. Take the Survey >

Pledge Your Support for Mesa Flight Attendants

mesa-standv2.jpgOver five years and following bankruptcy cuts, management is still refusing to invest in Mesa Flight Attendants with meaningful improvements. Mesa Flight Attendants are on average 20% behind the pay of their regional counterparts doing flying for United and American. Last year Mesa Flight Attendants voted to overwhelmingly reject management’s paltry offer that included a 1% raise. But Mesa management’s position at the table has only gotten worse. As Mesa MEC President Heather Stevenson told the Houston Chronicle, management has left Mesa Flight Attendants with no choice but to take a strike vote. The stall tactics and excuses from Mesa have got to stop. Let Mesa Flight Attendants know we have their back!

The standards at Mesa are a threat to all of us. But together we can change that. Enough is enough. We expect a fair contract now.

Sign this pledge to show them we all have their backs >

Extension Settlement – New Language

Extension Settlement – New Language

Your MEC is pleased to announce that we have settled the long-suffering issue of “extensions” at Endeavor. The issue of extended flying has generated a good number of questions and grievances throughout the years, and, in practice, very few Flight Attendants ever received extension pay.

The week before this issue went to arbitration AFA and the Company were able to agree on clarification language that would assure extension pay while providing the Company operational certainty. In addition to the single grievance we were to arbitrate, we were able to settle three additional grievances and a number of pre-grievances, providing addition pay for all affected Flight Attendants.

Below is a summary of the new extension rules. To view the detailed language of the settlement and clarification language, click HERE. What will be most helpful to Flight Attendants are the many examples in the clarification language, some of which are printed below. AFA recommends that each Flight Attendant has a copy of the clarification language available to them when flying, as the current Contract language is no longer helpful in determining whether you are being extended.


1. “Beginning of trip extension.
– Any added flying that requires you to report earlier than your original in-base report time.

2. “Middle” of trip extension.
– Flying that is added within the footprint of your trip when no other flying has been canceled or removed.

3. “End” of trip extension.
– Flying that is added to your trip which causes you to be released more than one hour after your original in-base release time.
– We reduced the length of extensions to a maximum of three hours past your original release time, unless it is your last leg that cancels (see below).
– However, be aware that when your last leg back to base cancels, the general rule does not necessarily apply. The Company may reschedule you for any single working leg back to base even if it is well after the original one hour release time and it is not an extension. On the other hand, if they reschedule you for multiple legs back to base those legs may be considered an extension and you may be able to refuse the extension, depending upon whether the legs are working or non-working (See clarification language, Sec. 6.a.(3)(d))

4. “Middle” extensions cannot be refused.
– If flying is added to the middle of your trip but does not cause you to be released more than one hour after your original release time in base, the “extension” cannot be refused.

5. “Beginning” or “End” extensions may be refused.
– You may refuse additional flying that causes you to report earlier in base or to be released more than one hour after your original release time in base.
– However, there are still some limitations on your ability to refuse. You cannot refuse if you are the “most-junior legal and available Flight Attendant.” In addition, our refusals are still limited to once per quarter.

6. Only one extension per month.
– We reduced the maximum number of extensions per month from two to one.

(Middle of Trip – Non-Refusable Extension)

A Flight Attendant’s originally scheduled BWI-CVG flight was removed and replaced with a different flight segment between the same city pair (BWI-CVG), and then a CVG-MEM turn was added before rejoining her originally scheduled trip. This is a non-refusable extension, and the CVG-MEM-CVG legs would be paid at 150%.

(End of Trip – Refusable Extension)

A Flight Attendant’s trip is scheduled to end in domicile at 1300 with a leg from ATL-JFK The ATL-JFK leg is moved to an earlier report time, and two legs are added (JFK-CVG; CVG-JFK), which is scheduled to return the Flight Attendant to base at 1445. This is a refusable extension, because the added flying will now conclude the trip more than one (1) hour after the original release time. In addition, the Flight Attendant will be able to refuse the extension if any more-junior Flight Attendant is legal and available (including reserves) in JFK (her domicile) to fly the extension.

(Not an Extension)

A Flight Attendant’s trip is originally scheduled to end in domicile at 1800 with a leg from PHL-DTW. The PHL-DTW leg is removed, and replaced with two legs (PHL-CGV; CGV-DTW), which is scheduled to return her to base at 1845. This not an extension, because although flying was added the PHL-DTW leg was canceled (removed).

February Bidding

The following information is what Flight Attendants can expect for February flying, this is based on what we have received from the Crew Planning department and Delta:

The Regular Line average for all bases will be approximately 76 hours.

There will be an increase in flying above January hours system wide of around 700 hours.

  • CRJ200 is up almost 500 hours, mostly in MSP.
  • CRJ900 up almost 200 hours, will be noticed more in LGA with some in DTW but a decrease in MSP.
  • CDO trips are down 20 on the CRJ900.
  • 3 day trips are up by 100.
  • A slight increase in aircraft changes are expected in order to increase block per duty day.

PBS Crew Room Bid Assistance

Available in all bases:

01/11 Wednesday 800–1700 local time
01/12 Thursday 800–1700 local time
01/13 Friday 800–1700 local time
01/14 Saturday 800–1700 local time

What’s New?

For Reserve Line bidders; in PBS under the Other Options tab you may now select all Reserve Line options, anytime of the month, and place them in your Standing Bid!

Bidding Tips

  • Always SAVE after every entry.
  • Always DISPLAY/PRINT at the end of each saved session to see all entries in their respective scopes. Then make a copy or take a screenshot with the time stamp.
  • Select the correct bid scope (REGULARRSV and CDO).
  • AVOID work (for example avoid the CRJ if you want to fly the CR9).
  • DESIRE time off (if you desire any type of work PBS will try to award as much as possible!).
  • Not certain you can hold a Regular Line next month? Bid in both Bid Scopes, Regular and Reserve. Please always look at the PBS Bid Packet which has the number of Reserve Lines for the month. The packet is available at noon Central Time Zone on 10JAN in endeavorairnet.com>Crew Resources tab>Crew Planning quick link>FA Bid Pack.
  • Utilize the Filter – The Filter is one of the most useful tools at your disposal to search for the types of options you most desire. You can improve your quality of life by simply analyzing the following: desire to overnight at a station in a warm climate, start a work period 1 hour after your commuter flight, end a pairing’s last non DH flight in a specific city, etc…
  • One of the strengths of PBS is that you can bid for everything you want. Bid smart by always having a “complete” bid in case you’re unable to hold your most important preferences.

Common Bidding Errors:

  • Placing same weight on all bid preferences – PBS will decide what is most important if you place High or 1000 on multiple entries!! Adjust values knowing that any entry is “asking” for what you want. Also, some parameters such as weekends off, will score multiple times a month. Weekends off could be worth 4,000 points in February. Consider point values based on maximum possible occurrences. Desire days off at 1000 is worth at least 11,000 total for a Regular Line holder. Is that more important than possibly Valentine’s Day or President’s Day? PBS may award more days off making you work on important dates not scored appropriately.
  • CDO Line is not awarded even though there are items selected in the CDO bid scope. You MUST Desire CDO line in the Other Options tab to be awarded a CDO Line.
  • Reserve Line is not awarded even though items are selected in Reserve bid scope. You MUST select Reserve bid scope>Option Class -Reserve Request>Reserve Line -Desire Reserve Line!
  • What is on your schedule for next month? During PBS bidding, the Calendar tab in PBS will display your vacation dates, IRT dates, The Experience date, manager assigned Meeting date, etc. Any stand alone date on your calendar will require that PBS assign work next to that date. Our contract states that you must have 2 consecutive duty days unless you Allow Single Duty Day in the Other Option tab. We advise that all Flight Attendants check their schedule before bids close on the 15th at noon Central time. This protects against forgetting about a single duty day meeting, 1 day trip you picked up on 30JAN, or that lonely Reserve day at the end of your January schedule!

Please utilize the PBS bidding experts in all bases this month!!

FYI regarding VACATIONS! If you did not bid for a vacation in 2017, Crew Planning assigns them to guarantee that you will be paid. Unassigned vacations days, are unpaid. Look at the February bid packet to find open vacation weeks! Contact crewplanning@EndeavorAir.com for vacation bid status, VAC info and general Flight Attendant questions.